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people who are working hard every day, paying payroll tax, gas taxes, but don't make enough income. and i want to fight for them. >> now, what was interesting to me about that is governor romney had just said his last statement, he brought up the 100%. either the president followed saying that he was going to answer that with the 47% or he planned to use that anyway as his closing but there's nothing more frustrating in a debate in leaving something that you can't answer. how bad is that 47% lingering out there in the bigger picture in terms of the american electorate, in your opinion? >> you know -- >> whether you think it's fair or not? >> here's the thing. the question is whether it's going to be -- whether it's a base election or an independent election. >> okay. >> i'd argue that it's a base election and what the president did there is he was speaking to his base. his base wanted him to address that issue. romney opened the door with it, which is probably convenient for him but people who support obama wanted to hear him say that. the question is whether independents and the po
people who are working hard every day, paying payroll tax, gas taxes, but don't make enough income. and i want to fight for them. >> now, what was interesting to me about that is governor romney had just said his last statement, he brought up the 100%. either the president followed saying that he was going to answer that with the 47% or he planned to use that anyway as his closing but there's nothing more frustrating in a debate in leaving something that you can't answer. how bad is that...
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the people a tax hike? if we can't have it it all, we'll allow a tax hike to take place. >> is the president ready to go to the mat over this? is he willing to let the bottom income tax rates of the 98% go up in order to not raise rates on the top percents. that's the other people and he and robert gibbs have been very clear they're not held hostage this time. they're willing to go to the mat this time whereas the last negotiation, i don't think they were willing to and instead they used it as a bargaining chip to get other things they wanted. >> it's different from the last one. what i hear from some democratic senators and now even from some republican senators something they will not say publicly, they're willing and, in fact, some believe they need to go off the cliff on january 1st. they need to allow the tax rates to expire, have every rate go up including the bottom rate to go up in order to then on january 2nd put real pressure on congress including republicans in congress to pass some kind of adjus
the people a tax hike? if we can't have it it all, we'll allow a tax hike to take place. >> is the president ready to go to the mat over this? is he willing to let the bottom income tax rates of the 98% go up in order to not raise rates on the top percents. that's the other people and he and robert gibbs have been very clear they're not held hostage this time. they're willing to go to the mat this time whereas the last negotiation, i don't think they were willing to and instead they used...
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the majority of americans want to see tax cuts for the middle class and to reduce the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of americans. now let's translate that into action, into phone calls. labor in terms of tv ads. we need to mobilize this majority that elected the president of the united states. they did it for a reason, because they want this agenda. let's put it to work. you know, people can go to theaction theaction.org, it's a website created by allies of the president to do just that, to put things in motion. >> congresswoman, you're there on the hill. what is your sense, do you think there's been any shift at all, any movement at all that the republicans get it or at least more open to dialogue now that would make sense for americans? >> i definitely feel there's a new tone. i think i see it most clearly on issues like immigration, where they certainly get it now. and i think we're going to be able to move forward very quickly. i think even on these fiscal issues that i think there's just a different attitude about sitting down, as we always have in the past, to negotiate somethin
the majority of americans want to see tax cuts for the middle class and to reduce the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of americans. now let's translate that into action, into phone calls. labor in terms of tv ads. we need to mobilize this majority that elected the president of the united states. they did it for a reason, because they want this agenda. let's put it to work. you know, people can go to theaction theaction.org, it's a website created by allies of the president to do just that, to...
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they're being burieded by regulatio regulations, taxes, by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> major, does joe biden's statement, this video, do either play into the debate tonight? >> i don't think the video is going to play into the debate. you look at what pollsters find from surveying voters, they want to nope, especially tonight, what is your characterization of president obama, what's you've done for four years, mitt romney and what are you going to do going forward. i do not expect this to be about a video from 2007. i think if romney were to do that, it would be a strategic mistake. as for paul ryan, this has been part of a romney campaign tendency. everything from the convention, acutely so, maybe a bit before that. to take whatever sound bite of the day is and to build a narrative around that. that doesn't reenforce the larger one for the romney campaign. look, the american public is well aware of the economic situation our nation is in. it's a recovery, but the slowest and least satisfied since
they're being burieded by regulatio regulations, taxes, by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> major, does joe biden's statement, this video, do either play into the debate tonight? >> i don't think the video is going to play into the debate. you look at what pollsters find from surveying voters, they want to nope, especially tonight, what is your characterization of president obama, what's you've done for four years, mitt romney and...
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that make $900,000 a year can keep their tax deductions or their tax breaks, you're going to have to take that from the middle class. you wrote about that today. break down what this really will be in terms of make iing the mie class have to pay out of their pocket. >> it's just a complete shachl. thank god we have representative cleveland here to enlighten us. it means it can't be understood. john boehner is looking out for john boehner and looking out for his job. he does not at this moment have the votes. we're going through this sham to protect the rich. i do think that they were trying to do something tricky and look like, okay, maybe we sort of got that americans would like to see the rich pay a little bit more in taxzs so we'll do this one symbolic thing. but the right wing then demand that they gut programs for the poor and for the middle class. so it's, you know, it's kind of like a sugar-covered satan sandwich? >> i think we've all eaten satan sandwiches. i think satan just got some helpers here, congressman. because we're talking about not only gutting food stamps and gutt
that make $900,000 a year can keep their tax deductions or their tax breaks, you're going to have to take that from the middle class. you wrote about that today. break down what this really will be in terms of make iing the mie class have to pay out of their pocket. >> it's just a complete shachl. thank god we have representative cleveland here to enlighten us. it means it can't be understood. john boehner is looking out for john boehner and looking out for his job. he does not at this...
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he called for an extex to the middle class tax breaks. russell wassendorff admitted to a 20 year long fraud. he was in the hospital recovering from a suicide attempt. >>> hillary clinton is outraged by the latest mass care in syria and is calling on the security council to take action. back to "lock up." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> we were at indiana state prison the day paul took his first step towards freedom since getting locked up for participating in his father's murder. he was being transferred to a lower security work release program as a precursor to his parole. >> my good-byes are said. it's over with. change into this right here and you'll never see me here again after today. this is it. >> paul was incarcerated 26 years. the day he was released for the work release center, and he seemed a little bit nervous but more excited than anything else. >> i feel like a human being to finally wear clothes. >> he dressed up in a suit. he was trying to normalize himself so quickly that it was importan
he called for an extex to the middle class tax breaks. russell wassendorff admitted to a 20 year long fraud. he was in the hospital recovering from a suicide attempt. >>> hillary clinton is outraged by the latest mass care in syria and is calling on the security council to take action. back to "lock up." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> we were at indiana state prison the day paul took his first step towards freedom since...
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it's permanent tax relief for individuals. a permanent tax on the alternative minimum tax. the marriage penalty, death tax relief, and a permanent extension of the higher tax credit and the capital gains and dividends rates we see today. all in all the nonpartisan joint committee on taxation says the bill represents a $3.9 trillion tax decrease. after today some senate democrats and the white house are going to have to act on this measure. two years ago 53 democrats voted for a bill like this one. now they say they oppose it. rather than tell us what they can't do, maybe they should tell us what they can do. the senate democrats and the white house refuse to act. they'll be responsible for the largest tax hike in american history. the house today will also pass a bill to replace the sequester. it will replace the sequester with cuts, but even further address the deficit problem that we have. while the democrat-controlled senate and white house have no plan and have offered no plan all year to deal with these looming cuts. i call on senator reid to make sure they'll be able
it's permanent tax relief for individuals. a permanent tax on the alternative minimum tax. the marriage penalty, death tax relief, and a permanent extension of the higher tax credit and the capital gains and dividends rates we see today. all in all the nonpartisan joint committee on taxation says the bill represents a $3.9 trillion tax decrease. after today some senate democrats and the white house are going to have to act on this measure. two years ago 53 democrats voted for a bill like this...
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he cannot allow them to say just let the tax -- let the -- go ahead and renew tax breaks for the wealthy and we'll work on this next year in some big grand bargain over tax reform. don't let them get away with that because they will then have suckered the president and democrats and not be willing to tow the line when it comes down to it. so i think the president has to insist that they sign on to a deal right now for keeping the tax cuts only for people under $250,000. i think he has to be very careful and not let them get away with something. >> now, he did say, congresswoman, that he had to bend, he was willing to sign right now an extension of the tax cut for the middle class and then negotiate about the wealthier later. and that was the position he took in his comment. and paul krugman wrote expressing liberal fears about grand bargains on taxes and entitlements. he wrote you know what could really produce the kind of dispirited bates that was supposed to doom obama in 2012, a sellout on key democratic values as a part of a grand bargain. do you have those fears, congresswoman? >> y
he cannot allow them to say just let the tax -- let the -- go ahead and renew tax breaks for the wealthy and we'll work on this next year in some big grand bargain over tax reform. don't let them get away with that because they will then have suckered the president and democrats and not be willing to tow the line when it comes down to it. so i think the president has to insist that they sign on to a deal right now for keeping the tax cuts only for people under $250,000. i think he has to be...
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here's stephen colbert. >> obama's answer to taxes is to raise taxes on the wealthy because he ran on that promise and won the elections. it's like he's totally disregarding my dismisses ive finger quotes. what part of this don't you understand? president obama? republicans might let him do it, even though every republican in congress has signed the no taxes pledge, created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos dias. >> seems like republicans are having an easier time writing off norquist than appealing to latinos. >>> which former gop candidate got a nod on the cbs show "ncis:los angeles" last night? one of the detectives on last night's episode gave us a throwback to a certain candidate's tax plan. >> huh? look at all those center hits. nine, nine, nine. should change my name to herman cain. >> yeah? i think it's more like peewee herman. read them and weep. >> you know what? these targets are cultu cultura biased. >> against what, surfers? >> 9-9-9 is how we remember herman cain. >>> are
here's stephen colbert. >> obama's answer to taxes is to raise taxes on the wealthy because he ran on that promise and won the elections. it's like he's totally disregarding my dismisses ive finger quotes. what part of this don't you understand? president obama? republicans might let him do it, even though every republican in congress has signed the no taxes pledge, created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. the two most terrifying words a republican can hear,...
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releasing his tax returns would help answer many of the questions. but once again today he refused. >> the obama people keep on wanting more and more and more. more things to pick through. more things for their opposition research to make a mountain out of and to distort and be dishonest for. we're going to put out two years of tax returns. >> this weekend even his allies broke rank and said if he doesn't release more tax returns, then he must have something to hide. >> the cost of not releasing the returns are clear. therefore, he must have calculated that there are higher costs in releasing. >> should release the tax returns tomorrow. it's crazy. yao got to do six to eight years of back tax returns. >> i was asked do you think governor romney should release his tax returns and i said i do. >> there's obviously something there. if there was nothing there, he would say have at it. there's something there that compromises what he's said in the past about something. >> there's something there. the secrecy is not new for romney. oddly for a public figur
releasing his tax returns would help answer many of the questions. but once again today he refused. >> the obama people keep on wanting more and more and more. more things to pick through. more things for their opposition research to make a mountain out of and to distort and be dishonest for. we're going to put out two years of tax returns. >> this weekend even his allies broke rank and said if he doesn't release more tax returns, then he must have something to hide. >> the...
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news the president a little more than an hour ago went to northern virginia to push the middle class tax cut message by spending time with an actual middle class family. >> the message that i got from tiffany and the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a solvable problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one's. >> and this actually appears to be working. a new poll shows the president is running ahead of the boehner-led republican team. what about basketball you say? we go to charlotte last night, and the knicks treasury secretary, carmelo anthony, top paid and big star got hurt in this dive and had to leave the game. then the at the end it came down to this. >> looking for felton and finds smith. two seconds, one second. smith for the win. >> game over. no overtime. deal, end game, done. is this meaningless nba game in charlotte lead us to how the fiscal fiesta ends? we have a man
news the president a little more than an hour ago went to northern virginia to push the middle class tax cut message by spending time with an actual middle class family. >> the message that i got from tiffany and the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a solvable problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good...
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one is the bush tax cuts are expiring. we want to make sure they stay the same for 98% of the people and just those over $250,000 will go back to the clinton rates. and we had the greatest prosperity under bill clinton. and everybody knows that. 23 million jobs, balanced budgets, all the rest. it's not going to hurt anything. the second thing, the automatic spending cuts. so my view is we can climb down that cliff by doing what the president says on taxes, bringing home the money from the wars, and stopping those automatic cuts. we're off the cliff. and then we get together with goodwill, right in january with the new senate and the new house, and we hammer out the long-range solutions to all this. >> i want to you listen to something that your colleague, pattie murray, from washington state said on alex wagner's show about this fiscal cliff and her attitude toward it. i want to you react to it. >> sure. >> it's not a good idea to go over the fiscal cliff. no one wants to see that happen. it is a bad idea. but a worse idea
one is the bush tax cuts are expiring. we want to make sure they stay the same for 98% of the people and just those over $250,000 will go back to the clinton rates. and we had the greatest prosperity under bill clinton. and everybody knows that. 23 million jobs, balanced budgets, all the rest. it's not going to hurt anything. the second thing, the automatic spending cuts. so my view is we can climb down that cliff by doing what the president says on taxes, bringing home the money from the wars,...
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we had the big tax breaks for wealthy americans from 2000 to 2008. what happened at the end of that period? jobs went down, the deficit went up. we also know, reverend al, from the nonpartisan congressional office, that those tax breaks for the very wealthy people have virtually no impact on jobs and economic growth and that the proposals the president has made, both the middle class tax extension, plus his small business tax cut, taken together do a lot more than you would get in terms of job growth from providing the folks at the very top with this bonus tax break. so you've got to look at the president's entire plan, both the investment in our infrastructure as well as middle class tax relief and small business tax relief and that is the jobs plan for the future and no matter what republicans say, the reality is that at the end of the day they are looking out for the folks at the very top. we know from our own history. >> yeah. >> that history is bankrupt. >> and these are things we need. if you look at what hurricane did to new york and new jerse
we had the big tax breaks for wealthy americans from 2000 to 2008. what happened at the end of that period? jobs went down, the deficit went up. we also know, reverend al, from the nonpartisan congressional office, that those tax breaks for the very wealthy people have virtually no impact on jobs and economic growth and that the proposals the president has made, both the middle class tax extension, plus his small business tax cut, taken together do a lot more than you would get in terms of job...
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he said she goes to washington and brings back tax and red tape. she goes washington, d.c. and it's a little bit like you know one of those dogs, you know, fetch. mccaskill's campaign emailed that out the reporters as an example that akin continues to offend women. there might be room for unity in washington yet. both mitt romney and president obama praised robert griffith iii during a taped football spot. >> rg 3 hasn't been in washington very long but he's created change. >> it's tough to you night this city around anything. but rb 3 neighbors it took easy. >> here's "saturday night live's" take on the last debate. >> you got a problem? >> yeah, yeah, i got a problem. i want to know why it took so you long to call benghazi attack a terror attack. you have never used terrorist attack. >> i'll get the transcript. >> governor he used the phrase terrorist act. >> candy, no, no, no. candy, come on. >> i'm afraid he did. >> candy, please. can candy. >>> snl has been on fire. if you read only one thing this morning, had to pick this story as my most read just because of the titl
he said she goes to washington and brings back tax and red tape. she goes washington, d.c. and it's a little bit like you know one of those dogs, you know, fetch. mccaskill's campaign emailed that out the reporters as an example that akin continues to offend women. there might be room for unity in washington yet. both mitt romney and president obama praised robert griffith iii during a taped football spot. >> rg 3 hasn't been in washington very long but he's created change. >> it's...
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reform the taxes. they talked about lowering the overall tax rates and closing loopholes that they really have never identified. so that doesn't sound different. but i'm optimistic that because president obama has proposed in his $4 trillion deficit reduction $2.50 in cuts for every $1 in revenue. if mitch mcconnell is willing to go dollar for dollar, we should be able to work together. i heard lots of good things over the weekend from senate and house republicans who have said they want to work together. >> would democrats accept a dollar for dollar? >> what we need to do is sit down and agree right away to adopt the middle class tax cuts. give middle class certainty that's over in the house. it's past the senate. it's time to make that happen. give the middle class certainty. then there's a lot left that we need to work together on. but i know that if we are both willing to sit at the table, which the president and i know house and senate democrats are, we'd like republicans to join us. >> what makes
reform the taxes. they talked about lowering the overall tax rates and closing loopholes that they really have never identified. so that doesn't sound different. but i'm optimistic that because president obama has proposed in his $4 trillion deficit reduction $2.50 in cuts for every $1 in revenue. if mitch mcconnell is willing to go dollar for dollar, we should be able to work together. i heard lots of good things over the weekend from senate and house republicans who have said they want to...
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very heavy on taxes for the wealthy. romney extends the tax cuts and some more. heavy deregulation, that's what got us into this mess, and barack obama has had to clean it up the last four years, do we want to go through that again? that's not an argument republican candidates can make against romney? i do think if you listen to obama, it's the argument of the campaign is setting up to make against mitt romney. >> all right. >> it's all about personality? >> personality. it's going to be the contrast of romney versus obama. in that race, romney's going to lose in a landslide. >> depends where the economy is. >> yeah. >> so we have more to talk about. that's the important thing. ezra klein, thank you. appreciate it. >>> more americans than ever before are seeing a strong social conflict between the rich and poor and this goes way beyond the occupy wall street crowd. we've got details on that coming up. >>> and a mississippi judge is now questioning some of the 215 pardons issued by outgoing mississippi governor haley barbour. there's now a temporary block of the r
very heavy on taxes for the wealthy. romney extends the tax cuts and some more. heavy deregulation, that's what got us into this mess, and barack obama has had to clean it up the last four years, do we want to go through that again? that's not an argument republican candidates can make against romney? i do think if you listen to obama, it's the argument of the campaign is setting up to make against mitt romney. >> all right. >> it's all about personality? >> personality. it's...
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our labor income gets taxed as labor income. his labor income gets taxed as an investment. it's a rigged system and romney never wants to lead a tax reform that will continue that rigging out into the future. >> what do you think the reaction would be tonight, mike, if romney decided that the way to win this election would be to literally toss the 20% across the board tax cut out the window and say, actually i'm going to amend that in some way? >> he would risk a huge backlash. it might help him with the middle. >> but he'd win the election, wouldn't he? >> could. it would also raise the flip-flopping issue which he's done pretty well despite the attempts of the obama campaign of putting to bed since he picked paul ryan. the last few months he's not been dealing too much with the expedient charge because he's identified himself with paul ryan. people kind of know where he's coming from. if he dodges it at that point, i mean, he throws it all back into the mix. >> now, tim -- sorry, michael, you wrote a cover story -- sorry, you wrote a cover story for "time" magazine in whi
our labor income gets taxed as labor income. his labor income gets taxed as an investment. it's a rigged system and romney never wants to lead a tax reform that will continue that rigging out into the future. >> what do you think the reaction would be tonight, mike, if romney decided that the way to win this election would be to literally toss the 20% across the board tax cut out the window and say, actually i'm going to amend that in some way? >> he would risk a huge backlash. it...
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>>> taxes, education, reproductive rights when you're mitt romney what's wrong with a little change of heart? it's wednesday, october 10th, and this is "now." >>> joining me today, msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson, the golden throat. the host of msnbc's the cycle steve kornacki, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and new york times magazine editor mr. sunday morning himself, hugo lingren. there are 27 days to the election, meaning we still have time for 27 new and exciting policy shifts from governor mitt romney. and who better than the country's explainer in chief to outline the paradox of the mittens. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i thought -- i thought wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all these last two years. >> call it the merry go mitt. governor romney has completed a full 360-degree rotation, changing his views so many times on -- so many times on some of his core beliefs that he's right back to where he started decades ago. he
>>> taxes, education, reproductive rights when you're mitt romney what's wrong with a little change of heart? it's wednesday, october 10th, and this is "now." >>> joining me today, msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson, the golden throat. the host of msnbc's the cycle steve kornacki, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and new york times magazine editor mr. sunday morning himself, hugo lingren. there are 27...
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let's talk about the bush tax cuts at the moment. almost $1 trillion is saved over ten years. $42 billion in the first year alone. here's a healthy sum. that's a healthy sum. is that really where we have to go? should we go further than the old rates? >> absolutely. i think it's good that the rate is going to go up. but we have to eliminate the interest deduction that's an abomination in our tax code. the 15% rate that private equity people like myself get. we have to let dividends go back up to the same rate that working people pay on taxes. the unearned income is a problem that's equally prenishs and robs the treasury of important funds. people think the republicans are afraid that the economy will be harmed when tax rates go up on the rich. it's the opposite of the truth. they are terrified that when tax rates go up on the rich, it's not going to harm the economy. and 30 years of ridiculous orthodox si are going to go down the drain. >> i want to play this sound byte by mitch mcconnell today. >> i can say on the part of my members
let's talk about the bush tax cuts at the moment. almost $1 trillion is saved over ten years. $42 billion in the first year alone. here's a healthy sum. that's a healthy sum. is that really where we have to go? should we go further than the old rates? >> absolutely. i think it's good that the rate is going to go up. but we have to eliminate the interest deduction that's an abomination in our tax code. the 15% rate that private equity people like myself get. we have to let dividends go...
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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost.. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> the rancor over the fiscal cliff negotiations may make it seem like the two parties don't get along. the capitol hill isn't always consumed by political bickering. that's a point senator kay bailey hutchison made to her farewell speech to the senate just yesterday. >> while we may disagree politically and air our opposition in this chamber it is the conversat
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost.. when what you just bought, just broke....
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they sit down they listen they come up with anr it be immigration and taxes or whatever it is. and they learn as much as they can. and they give speeches when needed. and they keep quiet. that's what freshman senators usually do. in the mold of a hillary clinton, in the mold of certain senators that did that. there are certain senators who have not done that in their first year terms. rand paul jim demint. these are tea partiers. they don't care about the protocol. when it comes to nin i suspect some of them will be the tea party mold. this one will >> we'll watch that one closely. leadership roles is the fact paul ryan had a b-plan to stay in his spot. what does it mean for him moving forward? >> paul ryannues to be the chairman of the house budget committee which matters. because ofhe fiscal cliff. and because of the fy-13 or 2013 appropriations which have now been moved to next year. he make himself? is he going to be m the table at the white house like he was in august of 2011 when he very much pushed back against the white house and the will be player. but i think he may
they sit down they listen they come up with anr it be immigration and taxes or whatever it is. and they learn as much as they can. and they give speeches when needed. and they keep quiet. that's what freshman senators usually do. in the mold of a hillary clinton, in the mold of certain senators that did that. there are certain senators who have not done that in their first year terms. rand paul jim demint. these are tea partiers. they don't care about the protocol. when it comes to nin i...
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and now he's already moved on taxes and on social security. you know, is one person's compromise another person's caving? and how concerned are you about that? >> you know, that's why it is important to have a democratic majority in the house of representatives. the fact of life is -- >> that's not going to happen between now and the time the fiscal cliff deal has to get done. >> that's absolutely correct. we have to reconcile ourselves to the fact of life in washington, d.c., that is that the republicans will decide what passes the house and what is defeated in the house. and so in this environment, there has to be a compromise. what house democrats working toward is a compromise that doesn't balance budgets on the backs of the middle class and seniors, a compromise that asks the wealthy to do more. a compromise that doesn't ask seniors to be first to give the most. and the republicans are willing to have a true dialogue with us, i think we can get there. >> congressman, let me ask you quickly, before we have to go, because we know the presid
and now he's already moved on taxes and on social security. you know, is one person's compromise another person's caving? and how concerned are you about that? >> you know, that's why it is important to have a democratic majority in the house of representatives. the fact of life is -- >> that's not going to happen between now and the time the fiscal cliff deal has to get done. >> that's absolutely correct. we have to reconcile ourselves to the fact of life in washington, d.c.,...
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now he is back to arguing that it's not a tax. >> you guys called it a tax? >> the governor disagreed with the ruling of the court. clearly stated that the mandate was not a tax. >> okay. which -- so i guess -- we're -- i think we're talking around each other. the governor does not believe the mandate is a tax? that is what you're saying? >> the governor believes what we put in place in massachusetts was a penalty and he disagrees with the court's ruling that it is not a tax. >> but he agrees with the president that it is not -- and he believes that you should not call the tax penalty a tax, you should call it a penalty or a fee or a fine? >> that's correct. but the president also needs to be held accountable for his contradictory statements. he has described it variously as a penalty and as a tax. he needs to reconcile those two very different statements. >> before i let you go, i want to ask you to respond to this tweet. i am sure you have seen it over the weekend. met mitt romney last week. will be hard to beat unless he drops old friends from team and hir
now he is back to arguing that it's not a tax. >> you guys called it a tax? >> the governor disagreed with the ruling of the court. clearly stated that the mandate was not a tax. >> okay. which -- so i guess -- we're -- i think we're talking around each other. the governor does not believe the mandate is a tax? that is what you're saying? >> the governor believes what we put in place in massachusetts was a penalty and he disagrees with the court's ruling that it is not a...
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agree we won't raise taxes on people making less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now. >> what is the issue with that? >> well, what congressman cole has really shown is that there's an imminent amount of good logic and sense in preserving the current tax rates for 98% of americans for a lot of reasons. one of which is the gdp dependent on consumer spending. 0% of the economy is consumer spending. if you take $2,000 on average out of pockets of consumers, it's going to hurt the economy so right away you have a low tax good economic rational behind it but there are politics here, too, of course, and that is the republican party just got she lacked in an election and learning that the only way to expand their popularity, expand their base is if they stop being perceived as the party of wealthy white people and start being perceived as more appeal and i think that congressman's statement goes to the fact that we need to separate the tax rates for the top 2% as an issue from the tax rates of everybody else. that's so-cal
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he wanted to take all the time to fox news to explain the details of the tax plan, but the campaign wouldn't let him. that would be my guess. and i think that he has a lot of good will in the republican party, particularly in the conservative base. he can probably get away with that. by the way, the narrative that is not emerging which i thought was going to be a bigger problem for ryan was, you know, potentially the ryan plan and the medicare, quote, unquote, voucherization was going to kill them in florida, in particular, and really be an electoral loser and demonize the ryan plan, and nobody was going to want to touch that idea again. i don't think that really hasn't yet been a big theme in the campaign. so actually, i think that's good news for ryan and it's something that he's not going to have to spend as much time on the defensive about. by the way, if romney loses, i think i said this last time, if romney loses ohio by a half point or a point, there's going to be second-guessing should he have picked rob portman for the political expedience. >> there's going to be second-guessing on
he wanted to take all the time to fox news to explain the details of the tax plan, but the campaign wouldn't let him. that would be my guess. and i think that he has a lot of good will in the republican party, particularly in the conservative base. he can probably get away with that. by the way, the narrative that is not emerging which i thought was going to be a bigger problem for ryan was, you know, potentially the ryan plan and the medicare, quote, unquote, voucherization was going to kill...
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he charged the middle class for more tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. >> all right. ben, no rest for the weary. thanks so much. >> thanks, alex. >> we'll bring in our friday political power panel joining us on set today. joanne, chris and susan. chris is one lucky guy sitting between the ladies. >> this is a great day. >> if you look at the numbers we're seeing in the states of ohio and wisconsin, you see the numbers there and you take into account what they read. little change there particularly but then there was a flip side if you get numbers from gallup. if you look at this next debate, put it into context in terms of importance for each candidate. >> i think obviously because the media tends to make these debates extremely important, they are important because we in the media say they are important. headlines coming out the next day do influence the polls. i think the tenor of those headlines influence the polls. both of these candidates want to have a strong debate because they want to have strong headlines the next day. we're in that part of a campaign that's
he charged the middle class for more tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. >> all right. ben, no rest for the weary. thanks so much. >> thanks, alex. >> we'll bring in our friday political power panel joining us on set today. joanne, chris and susan. chris is one lucky guy sitting between the ladies. >> this is a great day. >> if you look at the numbers we're seeing in the states of ohio and wisconsin, you see the numbers there and you take into account what...
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to do to the tax code. he has a tax cut that would cost $5 trillion. that part is true. the president is right about that. romney said from the very beginning, he's consistent so nothing he said last night was new. it's important to put that clearly. he's always said he will pay for that tax cut. that tax cut will not be passed the way it is currently in. he will work with congress to find offsets. romney has not named any offsets or shown how to pay for it, and it's not clear that he can, given the size of it and given his promise of not letting it become a tax cut for the rich. that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor
to do to the tax code. he has a tax cut that would cost $5 trillion. that part is true. the president is right about that. romney said from the very beginning, he's consistent so nothing he said last night was new. it's important to put that clearly. he's always said he will pay for that tax cut. that tax cut will not be passed the way it is currently in. he will work with congress to find offsets. romney has not named any offsets or shown how to pay for it, and it's not clear that he can,...
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don't like the tax policy numbers, find your own. there is a lot of that going on. >> in fairness i think what mitt romney said is defensible in the sense that, in fact, we have seen millions of people drop out of the labor force. if they hadn't dropped out and they seem to have because -- some is anyonie i aging but a l find jobs. that's a fair thing to say. >> he's on stage alan west who on friday suggests this was part of leftist radicalism at work and part of the chicago machine manipulating labor statistics. >> indeed. then there are the crazy people. >> that speaks volumes. >> he probably didn't pick the appearance knowing what the jobs figures would be. i think it's fair to say the economy has been bachltd obama doesn't have much to do with it. the president can't do that much to control the economy. but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every f
don't like the tax policy numbers, find your own. there is a lot of that going on. >> in fairness i think what mitt romney said is defensible in the sense that, in fact, we have seen millions of people drop out of the labor force. if they hadn't dropped out and they seem to have because -- some is anyonie i aging but a l find jobs. that's a fair thing to say. >> he's on stage alan west who on friday suggests this was part of leftist radicalism at work and part of the chicago machine...
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they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> even when biden wasn't on his campaign talking points he was using his very own special brand of biden-ooez to tug the rug out from under paul ryan's feet. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look here's the deal -- >> what does that mean. >> we irish call it mularkey. >> the greatest hope for republicans was a gaffe but biden managed to take his weakness and redirect it towards governor romney. >> romney is a good man, he cares about 100% of americans in this country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. and so does romney. >> this morning both sides are claiming victory and, indeed, everything may change in the next five days when president obama and governor romney take the stage again. but what biden did give is the president -- gave the president a path throwing his detractors off the scent and leading his best friend on the path towards victory. franklin, as the new guy at the t
they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> even when biden wasn't on his campaign talking points he was using his very own special brand of biden-ooez to tug the rug out from under paul ryan's feet. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look here's the deal -- >> what does that mean. >> we irish call it mularkey. >> the greatest hope for republicans was a gaffe but biden managed to take his weakness and redirect it towards governor...
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president obama said mitt romney would make seniors pay more for medicare in order to give tax breaks to the wealthy. mitt romney is fund-raising in cape cod and nantucket. his campaign expects to pull in $7 million this weekend. and john lennon's killer is up for patrol. chapman shot and killed the former beatle in 1980. now back to "caught on camera." >>> welcome back to "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. going with the flow is usually a good thing, but not when it sends your dreams down river. when disaster strikes a lakeside resort, no one is prepared for the tragedy that unfolds. june 9th, 2008. a massive flood destroys a community and washes homes down the wisconsin river. >> i thought there's just no way. that can't happen here. i remember when the rooftops went through, it was surreal. i couldn't believe it. >> almost like it was a nightmare that we were pinching ourselves hoping we'd wake up. we were in a state of shock. we could not believe it was happening. >> it's the height of summer tourist season in the wisconsin dells, a midwestern resort area. famous for its wat
president obama said mitt romney would make seniors pay more for medicare in order to give tax breaks to the wealthy. mitt romney is fund-raising in cape cod and nantucket. his campaign expects to pull in $7 million this weekend. and john lennon's killer is up for patrol. chapman shot and killed the former beatle in 1980. now back to "caught on camera." >>> welcome back to "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. going with the flow is usually a good thing, but not...
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number four is restoring the cuts that were made to medicare and number five, make health care tax-free. >> all of that is good, but the sticking point with preexisting conditions. you wipe out the idea so an insurance company doesn't have to take you or keep that? >> there ways to do older children staying on parents's health care plans and preexisting conditions. allow those provisions to move forward. >> how do you do it without the cost? without insurance companies escalating the cost. the point was to prevent that. >> moving preexistings back to funds that are run by the state. you can do that. it would work more like a worker's comp plan would work. there plans for doing that and having those with preexisting conditions, but have them handle them. >> you won't have much choice. what you are describing is sort of this catastrophic pool. people won't have many choices. >> let's let the market work on that. we have got plans that have been out there, ways and means had plans on that. good work on the issues. kevin brady also. there plans in place. when it am cans to lowering the cost
number four is restoring the cuts that were made to medicare and number five, make health care tax-free. >> all of that is good, but the sticking point with preexisting conditions. you wipe out the idea so an insurance company doesn't have to take you or keep that? >> there ways to do older children staying on parents's health care plans and preexisting conditions. allow those provisions to move forward. >> how do you do it without the cost? without insurance companies...
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what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention to that tax cut under the carpet. >> romney's campaign continuing a blitz of ohio today denying that he's a new moderate but here is what he told the des moines register yesterday. when asked about his agenda on abortion. >> there's no legislation regarding -- with regards to abortion i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> joining me now, "usa today's" washington bureau chief susan page and "time" assistant managing editor. good morning, both of. >> did you good morning. >> susan, romney's statement appeared to be away from the democrats tried use against them and campaign quickly issued a statement saying mitt romney is pro-life. what is going on with the romney message? >> well, i think romney is -- governor romney is definitely trying to pivot to the middle. we were waiting to do this last spring and early summer when he clinched the republican nomination. he's doing it now kind of on the late side. it is the same sort of more centrist message th
what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention to that tax cut under the carpet. >> romney's campaign continuing a blitz of ohio today denying that he's a new moderate but here is what he told the des moines register yesterday. when asked about his agenda on abortion. >> there's no legislation regarding -- with regards to abortion i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> joining me now, "usa today's"...
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the president's idea is raising taxes on income over a quarter million dollars but keeping the bush tax cuts for everybody else. that idea is very popular. 60% support. it is a very popular plan that the president is trying to drum up even more support for now with these campaign style trips. now, on the other side, what the republicans want to do, their plan is to limit deductions, limit tax deductions. that's their plan instead. that, in contrast to the president's proposal, is not popular. more people oppose that idea than support that idea. even republicans hate the republican idea. look at 39% of republicans support the republican proposal. that's before you get to the other part of the republican proposal, something being floated by republican senator bob corker of tennessee, an idea we should raise the eligibility age for medicare. that is a wildly unpopular idea. more people oppose than support that idea by a 37% margin. it is more unpopular among republicans than the general public. republicans have not convinced their own voters let alone the rest of the country. they have not
the president's idea is raising taxes on income over a quarter million dollars but keeping the bush tax cuts for everybody else. that idea is very popular. 60% support. it is a very popular plan that the president is trying to drum up even more support for now with these campaign style trips. now, on the other side, what the republicans want to do, their plan is to limit deductions, limit tax deductions. that's their plan instead. that, in contrast to the president's proposal, is not popular....
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, so it's a tax. i said that i agreed with the dissent, and the dissent made it very clear that they felt it was unconstitutional, but the dissent lost. >> that was mitt romney yesterday, attempting to clarify his campaign's position on the individual mandate portion of president obama's affordable care act. it comes as the romney campaign he's trying to, for whatever reasons, speak to the fact that we do have rule of law in this country and the supreme court did say it's a tax. what's wrong with that? >> let's say it's a tax. let's let this semantic craziness end. it's a tax. it's a tax, by the way, that number one, mitt romney invented as governor of massachusetts, and number two, it is a tax, a tax that has not gone into effect yet, that will be levied on people who decline, refuse to buy health insurance. so, fine. just as we tax people who buy cigarettes or do all kinds of socially unproductive things, we will tax the people, those, that tiny minority of people who don't buy health insurance. tha
, so it's a tax. i said that i agreed with the dissent, and the dissent made it very clear that they felt it was unconstitutional, but the dissent lost. >> that was mitt romney yesterday, attempting to clarify his campaign's position on the individual mandate portion of president obama's affordable care act. it comes as the romney campaign he's trying to, for whatever reasons, speak to the fact that we do have rule of law in this country and the supreme court did say it's a tax. what's...
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i want to pivot from libya to talk about the tax question. mitt romney had a -- there are so many bond mos that are dropped when mitt romney takes the stage but his explanation regarding the math on his tax plan i thought was really -- it goes in the annuals of romney greatest hits. let's play the sound when president obama is talking about tax cuts and mitt romney explaining his version of the arithmetic. let's hear what they said last night. >> if somebody came to you, governor, with a plan that said, here, i want to spend $7 trillion or $8 trillion, and we're going to pay for it but we can't tell you until maybe after the election how we're going to do it, you wouldn't have taken such a sketchy deal and neither should you. the american people. because the math doesn't add up. >> if somehow the numbers don't add up, would you be willing to look again at a 20% -- >> well of course they add up. i was -- i was someone who ran businesses for 25 years and balanced the budget. >> lebo, of course they add up, i was someone who ran businesses for 2
i want to pivot from libya to talk about the tax question. mitt romney had a -- there are so many bond mos that are dropped when mitt romney takes the stage but his explanation regarding the math on his tax plan i thought was really -- it goes in the annuals of romney greatest hits. let's play the sound when president obama is talking about tax cuts and mitt romney explaining his version of the arithmetic. let's hear what they said last night. >> if somebody came to you, governor, with a...
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they concluded it's a tax. >> a tax? maybe mitt romney will know how to avoid that with an offshore account, perhaps? >> what's the effective rate? probably closer to the 15%. >>> we hope you've had a wonderful fourth of july. we expect the president to speak in this hour at an ice cream social in sandusky, ohio. don't let the gentile sound fool you. he is in the fight of his life to hang on to those key battleground states that went for him in 2008. and he warns supporters in the toledo suburb earlier today that now is not the time to be complacent. >> even though politics may seem real small right now, it may seem real petty, the choice in the election could not be ç clearer. and it could not be bigger. the stakes could not be bigger. >> you can do it! >> i know. >> and make no mistake, the president is not the only one with ohio and pennsylvania squarely in his sights. for mitt romney, the rust belt states are even more crucial for him with his hopes pinned to a demographic edge with white, working class voters. the
they concluded it's a tax. >> a tax? maybe mitt romney will know how to avoid that with an offshore account, perhaps? >> what's the effective rate? probably closer to the 15%. >>> we hope you've had a wonderful fourth of july. we expect the president to speak in this hour at an ice cream social in sandusky, ohio. don't let the gentile sound fool you. he is in the fight of his life to hang on to those key battleground states that went for him in 2008. and he warns supporters...
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next is the payroll tax. if you make, say, $50,000 a year, that's another $1,000 that you're going to fork over to uncle sam. then there is the alternative minimum tax, 27 million will be hit with this for the first time ever. and it's a separate calculation from the regular tax, the average cost, $3,700 a year. then there's the spending cuts, pre-cliff, if you're unemployed, you get 99 weeks of benefits, post cliff, 26 weeks. and home interest perks, bye-bye, those could all be gone. bernie sanders, good to have you with me today. and the president is making a full-court press meeting with business leaders today. and i just had senator johnson on earlier in the hour and says he's a small business owner, the president would have been wise to invite him to this meeting to talk to him about what he thinks about what could happen with the fiscal cliff, what do you think about the president's pr moves so far and what he's doing? >> well, i wouldn't call it a pr move. i think what the president is doing is saying
next is the payroll tax. if you make, say, $50,000 a year, that's another $1,000 that you're going to fork over to uncle sam. then there is the alternative minimum tax, 27 million will be hit with this for the first time ever. and it's a separate calculation from the regular tax, the average cost, $3,700 a year. then there's the spending cuts, pre-cliff, if you're unemployed, you get 99 weeks of benefits, post cliff, 26 weeks. and home interest perks, bye-bye, those could all be gone. bernie...
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they go to tax cuts for the rich. it's not only taking money from people who need it, it's giving money to people who don't need it which is the essence of the republican tax plan in general. but this is a very specific example of it. >> and some seniors can't even afford it. my time is up. thank you ana marie cox and jared bernstein. >> thank you. >>> ahead, paul ryan on the ticket is sending shock waves through the republican party. everyone is forced to run with him. and you won't believe what speaker boehner is saying to reassure his team. >>> plus, more secrets from the republican ticket. they won't explain how their policies add up. so i guess we shouldn't be sprie surprised to hear this today. >> the more we release, the more we get attacked. the more we get questioned and pushed. we have done what's legally required and there's going to be no more tax releases. >>> and mr. romney says president obama is running a campaign of division and hate. he has it all wrong. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. you
they go to tax cuts for the rich. it's not only taking money from people who need it, it's giving money to people who don't need it which is the essence of the republican tax plan in general. but this is a very specific example of it. >> and some seniors can't even afford it. my time is up. thank you ana marie cox and jared bernstein. >> thank you. >>> ahead, paul ryan on the ticket is sending shock waves through the republican party. everyone is forced to run with him. and...
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, according to the tax policy center. all of those savings are still not enough to cover his tax cut. the math just doesn't added a up, mr. chairman. >> and it comes from the middle class. look, i was appalled even by mitt romney's self-indulgent standards when he said, okay, here's how we're going to make it up. we're going to put a cap on deductions. pick a number. pick a number? this is presidential candidate telling you what he thinks and then the number 258,0, 25,000 m and if you are paying $2500 a month on your mortgage, in the first years, almost all of it goes for interest, that alone would go beyond 25,000 fairly quickly and then you don't get any education deduction. the $25,000 figure is clearly an announcement that middle income people will not continue to get the home mortgage interest deduction. this proposal of romney will drop it even more and that means. >> you know, i think when you really look at the fact that the plan that he has that he claims six studies validated it, we find that the six studies are
, according to the tax policy center. all of those savings are still not enough to cover his tax cut. the math just doesn't added a up, mr. chairman. >> and it comes from the middle class. look, i was appalled even by mitt romney's self-indulgent standards when he said, okay, here's how we're going to make it up. we're going to put a cap on deductions. pick a number. pick a number? this is presidential candidate telling you what he thinks and then the number 258,0, 25,000 m and if you are...
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you cut all those taxes, cut those taxes and they didn't create a lot of growth. clinton actually raised taxes on the high end, not in the middle class but the very high end and you had growth through the clinton years. i'm not saying this is cause and effect, but there is no empirical evidence that if you cut taxes on the rich that jobs are created. it's not an article of policy. it's an article of faith. ideology. religion for the right. [ overlapping speakers ] >> the democratic message on taxes is not just about policy, it's also personal. president obama's allies are ramping up calls on governor romney to release more of his past tax returns. this follows reporting in "vanity fair" romney has stored assets in notorious tax haven it is like bermuda and the cayman islands. >> the next four years, we're going to have to undergo comprehensive tax reform. and you know, he is somebody who has sheltered their income taxes in switzerland and the caymans and bermuda really somebody who's going to get under the hood and get us to a place of tax fairness. we need to kno
you cut all those taxes, cut those taxes and they didn't create a lot of growth. clinton actually raised taxes on the high end, not in the middle class but the very high end and you had growth through the clinton years. i'm not saying this is cause and effect, but there is no empirical evidence that if you cut taxes on the rich that jobs are created. it's not an article of policy. it's an article of faith. ideology. religion for the right. [ overlapping speakers ] >> the democratic...
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i think that the fiscal cliff and it is a cliff, on january 1 withholding taxes go up to the tune of $400 billion. >> not necessarily. >> it would have a very negative effect on the economy. according to the legislation they would, jared. >> they would not. >> jared, you have to -- >> let me make a point. the treasury secretary can decide if he or she believes a deal sl imminent not to adjust withholding tables. very important. >> i'm talking about no deal and we go off the cliff. >> we go off and stay off. >> it's $400 billion. we have a lot of things to do with regard to our debt ceiling, and my feeling is no one really believes the united states of america is going to default on its debt even if it lapses. we're dealing with different things. one is real and substantive and the other is psychological. >> i really disagree. >> i know you do. >> we could have a good discussion about this if we had more time. the idea that if the debt ceiling lapses, peter, that means that we can no longer borrow from credit markets and can't finance our debt. >> we're doing most of our borrowing rig
i think that the fiscal cliff and it is a cliff, on january 1 withholding taxes go up to the tune of $400 billion. >> not necessarily. >> it would have a very negative effect on the economy. according to the legislation they would, jared. >> they would not. >> jared, you have to -- >> let me make a point. the treasury secretary can decide if he or she believes a deal sl imminent not to adjust withholding tables. very important. >> i'm talking about no deal...
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roll back the bush tax cuts and stop these tax incentives for corporations to ship jobs overseas and he accomplished neither. >> the new poll, the washington poll shows that despite the earlier than usual ads in many places and the supreme court's ruling on health care and immigration, president obama and mitt romney are deadlocked at 47%. it also shows how the vast majority made up their minds. what do those things say about this race? >> we saw this in our poll two weeks ago. there is a hardening of the two political bases and this idea that america is polarized. you are seeing it reflected in the presidential preference numbers that we see in all the polls where you have this between 85 and 90% of democrats sticking with obama. 85 to 90% of republicans with romney. the slice of undecided voters is so small, it makes you wonder are we talking about swing voter or talking about turn out numbers and voters that swing between voting and not voting. i think that's what all of the poll numbers are saying. we have a hardening of the arteries. we are a polarized country and it will be a 5
roll back the bush tax cuts and stop these tax incentives for corporations to ship jobs overseas and he accomplished neither. >> the new poll, the washington poll shows that despite the earlier than usual ads in many places and the supreme court's ruling on health care and immigration, president obama and mitt romney are deadlocked at 47%. it also shows how the vast majority made up their minds. what do those things say about this race? >> we saw this in our poll two weeks ago....
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it is a tax. >> is obama care a tax? >> sure. yeah. >> i mean, listen, i thought all along it was a tax. i don't think it is exclusively tax or penalty. it is both. >> he disagree was the court's ruling the mandate was a tax. >> i don't want to do my pretzel roll-up but i mean, they are twisting -- i mean -- >> playing twister. >> this is crazy. you have the republican chairman and governor chris christie, one of their rising stars saying one thing. you have romney, spokesperson who is the presumptive nominee saying something else. i mean, it looks like they can't get on the same page here. >> they are all playing twister. remember that game? it was really fun. it is not going to be fun for mitt romney actually. i think mitt romney wishes this issue would just go away. he's stuck with the fact that he did have a mandate in massachusetts. he is stuck withing the fact he called it a penalty. we should point out that on thursday, when the ruling came down, mitt romney did try to spin it as a tax. people got to him and said, governor
it is a tax. >> is obama care a tax? >> sure. yeah. >> i mean, listen, i thought all along it was a tax. i don't think it is exclusively tax or penalty. it is both. >> he disagree was the court's ruling the mandate was a tax. >> i don't want to do my pretzel roll-up but i mean, they are twisting -- i mean -- >> playing twister. >> this is crazy. you have the republican chairman and governor chris christie, one of their rising stars saying one thing. you...
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he's going to talk about taxes. he's going to say this is a tax, it's a tax and mitt romney came out today, stood in front of the capitol and said barack obama's going to tax you more et cetera, et cetera. but if mitt romney chooses to focus on the health care bill for the next three months, he will be taken off the the table his number one argument to be elected -- >> by the way -- >> which is barack obama has blown it on the economy. >> by the way, not to get too tough with you, my friend because as mcloughlin would say, there's an element of truth. if this is held up as a tax, you simply reduce the tax to zero because you can move numbers around. >> but you -- if you don't think the republicans if they get control of the senate and have a republican president that they will try to use reconciliation to repeal this law i think it's crazy to think they won't try to do that. they hate this law. >> the fact is, the polls show that health care is like number four or five in people's concerns about what's number one in
he's going to talk about taxes. he's going to say this is a tax, it's a tax and mitt romney came out today, stood in front of the capitol and said barack obama's going to tax you more et cetera, et cetera. but if mitt romney chooses to focus on the health care bill for the next three months, he will be taken off the the table his number one argument to be elected -- >> by the way -- >> which is barack obama has blown it on the economy. >> by the way, not to get too tough with...
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congress is not going to be the one to take away tax credits for kids in college. congress will never do that unless there's strong presidential leadership and if he does that after the election, he has an absolute duty -- i'd say a sworn duty to tell us what it is now. >> right. okay. so if that's the peril or the problem for the romney campaign 20 days before the election, you have some critics, opinion writers and even a question of michael jones, uncommitted voter he described him and supported the president in the past and deskrir or want to hear the last few days or last few weeks from the president a clearer picture of how he would move this country beyond the measures taken beyond the moves made already and blocked in some cases by republicans. his vision for the future. >> and i think they're right. i think what the president should do, if i was in charge of the president's campaign, i would put an ad out with ten days to go and buy a minute because i think it's important enough and i'd say a lot of you have been asking me to be specific about what i do. h
congress is not going to be the one to take away tax credits for kids in college. congress will never do that unless there's strong presidential leadership and if he does that after the election, he has an absolute duty -- i'd say a sworn duty to tell us what it is now. >> right. okay. so if that's the peril or the problem for the romney campaign 20 days before the election, you have some critics, opinion writers and even a question of michael jones, uncommitted voter he described him and...
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it's lower taxes and smaller government and the ryan budget. they've actually melded nicely, but what happens here at election time is that some of these moderates are going to get left out in the cold, if not lose on election day. >> martin cady, thank you so much from politico. >> thank you. >>> now the for the "news nation" political postscript. it was dominated by coverage of the second presidential debate, which everyone agreed the president needed to win. going into the debate it was secretary of state hillary clinton who grabbed headlines with her statement about the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. take a listen. >> i take responsibility, i'm in charge of the state department. >> secretary clin ton has done n extraordinary job. she works for me and i'm the president and i'm always responsible. >> you said in the rose garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror? is that what aur saying. >> please proceed, governor. >> i want to make sure we get that for the record, because it took the president 14 days before he called
it's lower taxes and smaller government and the ryan budget. they've actually melded nicely, but what happens here at election time is that some of these moderates are going to get left out in the cold, if not lose on election day. >> martin cady, thank you so much from politico. >> thank you. >>> now the for the "news nation" political postscript. it was dominated by coverage of the second presidential debate, which everyone agreed the president needed to win....
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tax policies. i want to bring down the corporate tax rate from 35 to 25 and the individual tax rate 20% across the board. those specifics i like to see coming from the president. >> president obama said you were [inaudible]. >> i have spoken about health care from the day we passed it in massachusetts and people said is this something you would apply at the federal level and i said no. the right course is to allow states to create their own plans. the proof is i was right. obama care is costing jobs in america. when 3/4 of small businesses say they are less likely to hire people because of obama care, the president put his liberal agenda ahead of the interest of creating jobs. for me job one for the president has to be creating good jobs for middle america americans. that's what i'm going to do. >> [inaudible]. >> what i described in my plan is a series of changes to programs and elimination of programs that save more and more money overtime. we are able to get america to balance budgets in to ten
tax policies. i want to bring down the corporate tax rate from 35 to 25 and the individual tax rate 20% across the board. those specifics i like to see coming from the president. >> president obama said you were [inaudible]. >> i have spoken about health care from the day we passed it in massachusetts and people said is this something you would apply at the federal level and i said no. the right course is to allow states to create their own plans. the proof is i was right. obama...
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and for some of them even more than taxes abortion is the litmus test issue. it's also the issue on which governor romney has been absolutely totally positively the most flip floppy and squishyist. what he said yesterday was not exactly a flip flop back. it was essentially saying i don't have any legislation in mind. >> a lawyerly comment. >> at the top of my agenda. it's true. he hasn't proposed legislation and he also didn't say he would veto something that came from him. as we saw in the debate last week it is a definite shift in tone, a shift in tone that could appeal to both women voters and other independent voters who are trying to decide who this guy really is. >> chris cizilla, on that point, as to who this guy really is, andrea psaul issued a response saying -- what is your take away from all this? >> i think what he is trying to do is he understands -- and i would say this goes to the prominence of ann romney of late as well, he understands that women are absolutely essential he's not going to win them but he cannot lose the em bay wide margin. talk
and for some of them even more than taxes abortion is the litmus test issue. it's also the issue on which governor romney has been absolutely totally positively the most flip floppy and squishyist. what he said yesterday was not exactly a flip flop back. it was essentially saying i don't have any legislation in mind. >> a lawyerly comment. >> at the top of my agenda. it's true. he hasn't proposed legislation and he also didn't say he would veto something that came from him. as we...
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, simply by adjusting a person's tax liability. in the very first instance of the oral argument, chief roberts dropped some hints that he may see this as an exercising of a taxing power. so he could be simultaneously modest in terms of deferring to the political branches, he could lay new limits on the commerce power as he did speaking only for himself but in a court with four really solid conservatives, those limits may make a difference in the future he could limit congress' ability to eliminate the states through spending power. he could do it at the same time without a constitutional and in his role as chief justice of the united states, i thought it quite plausible for him to take and, as you see, he didç just that. >> what does this mean going forward? does it tell us anything about what we might see in the future? >> well, he's not going to side with them on affirmative action, the use of race in overcoming past discrimination and achieving diversity. but it certainly defines this as the roberts court and i think that beca
, simply by adjusting a person's tax liability. in the very first instance of the oral argument, chief roberts dropped some hints that he may see this as an exercising of a taxing power. so he could be simultaneously modest in terms of deferring to the political branches, he could lay new limits on the commerce power as he did speaking only for himself but in a court with four really solid conservatives, those limits may make a difference in the future he could limit congress' ability to...
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so, we've got to pay taxes. this has to be how it's going to happen if you want to make sure that america works. if you've ever been frustrated because police response is too slow, fires are not being put out on time, there's too many -- not enough teachers in kids' classrooms, we have to come together as americans and say, what's good for america. that means we all have to put in. >> let me ask you about the bigger conversation going on right now because it is about the wealthy and those who don't have so much money, those who have been affected by this economy. we've seen democrats come out and they've continued to attack mitt romney over his money, over a swiss bank account, a bermuda shell koerngs cayman investments. is that relevant? >> yes, it is. i don't think the problem is just that mitt romney is rich. we've had rich leaders who had a sense of the common good, the kennedys, roosevelt, people well to do but they identified with the average american person. the problem with mitt romney is that he's compl
so, we've got to pay taxes. this has to be how it's going to happen if you want to make sure that america works. if you've ever been frustrated because police response is too slow, fires are not being put out on time, there's too many -- not enough teachers in kids' classrooms, we have to come together as americans and say, what's good for america. that means we all have to put in. >> let me ask you about the bigger conversation going on right now because it is about the wealthy and those...